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I'm Rebecca LaVoy and this is Crime Riders on, the podcast about a podcast and also about

journalism, pop culture, true crime and occasionally that's right, other podcasts.

This week we'll be talking about the latest chart topping true crime podcast on the block

in The Dark.

And joining me to dive right in is my true crime co-author and real life husband Kevin Flynn.

Good evening, Kevin.

I don't know if I can do this back in the closet Rebecca after being in front of a big studio

audience.

That was pretty spanky, right?

It was.

And also, and beyond a stage, I had like a bark-alonger and like a random bed in closet.

I'm like in the middle of death of a salesman.

Hey, we've got old hangers in the corner over there.

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