In the Brush in Brooks County
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 2 November 2019
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
Last month at the Texas Tribune Festival in Austin, Stephanie Leutert, director of the Mexico Security Initiative at the Robert S. Strauss Center for International Security and Law at the University of Texas, joined Bobby Chesney and Sheriff Benny Martinez on stage to discuss an incredible new research project on Lawfare. She and Sheriff Martinez have teamed up to study the large number of migrants who have died hiking in the brush, trying to evade a border patrol checkpoint in Brooks County, TX. They talked about how Sheriff Martinez came to share a large quantity of data with Stephanie on the many people who have died in his county, the challenges of search and rescue and body recovery operations in a rural county, and how Washington policy is making it all worse.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.0 | You have metering where they're only allowing a certain number every day, not everyone |
| 0:38.4 | who just arrives. |
| 0:40.0 | People get very frustrated, they don't maybe don't want to wait, they can't wait and they |
| 0:46.0 | were crossing then along the river and a lot of people were getting swept away by the |
| 0:49.8 | river. |
| 0:50.8 | And so then you need border patrols to go out there and rescue them. |
| 0:53.9 | And so what's happening is that you're putting an extra strain on border patrol. |
| 0:57.3 | Should border patrol then be getting more resources to rescue more people? |
| 1:00.0 | Yes. |
| 1:01.0 | But it's a problem that's caused by another CBP policy that's pushing people into those |
| 1:05.8 | situations. |
| 1:07.8 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast November 2nd, 2019. |
| 1:15.0 | Last month at the Texas Tribune Festival in Austin, Stephanie Lloyder, director of the Mexico |
| 1:21.3 | Security Initiative at the University of Texas, joined Bobby Chesney on stage to discuss |
| 1:29.4 | an incredible new research project she has been doing on LawFair. |
| 1:33.9 | She and Sheriff Benny Martinez, who was also on stage and part of the discussion, have |
| 1:40.3 | teamed up to study the large number of migrants who have died hiking in the brush in Brooks |
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