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Vice President Mike Pence has been hitting the media circuit hard, promoting his new book,

So Help Me God. NPR Steve Inskeep talked to him about a whole host of things, his opinions on President Trump, what his thoughts are on January 6th, and his own political ambitions.

You can find that part of the interview on npr.org, but what we

wanted to showcase for you is a different part of their conversation, one that's more focused

on what his book is mostly about, his faith, and how it shapes his opinion on discrimination.

We met at the Indiana State Capitol where Pence-1 served as governor. He grew up in the small city of Columbus, Indiana, and his book, So Help Me God, describes his youth.

He was overweight and unhappy about it, he writes, a kid out of place, but also eager to rise.

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