In Sickness and In Health | EP 2 | Saskia's Story
Betrayal Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
iHeartPodcasts | Glass Podcasts
4.6 • 655 Ratings
🗓️ 5 February 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
As Saskia’s health spirals, Mike is there for her. But her unraveling isn't what it seems.
Content Warning for mental health struggles, substance dependence, chronic illness, physical injury, death of a parent, and tech-enabled sexual abuse.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.9 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:07.2 | Saskia was days away from her wedding. |
| 0:09.7 | She thought she was ready to marry Mike, |
| 0:11.8 | her partner and best friend of five years. |
| 0:14.8 | But then, a few nights before their wedding, |
| 0:17.9 | she saw something. |
| 0:19.4 | I remember we were in bed. |
| 0:23.7 | I can't tell you what was happening before, after, |
| 0:26.1 | but it was literally like a snapshot in time. |
| 0:28.9 | In the middle of the night, she opened her eyes, |
| 0:31.7 | disoriented, exhausted. |
| 0:34.8 | Mike was wide awake on his laptop. And on his screen, she could see two people. |
| 0:41.3 | And I didn't know if it was like a movie or whether he knew them. |
| 0:48.3 | And I remember being really confused and saying, like, what's going on? |
| 0:54.7 | She couldn't make sense of what she was seeing, but it felt wrong. |
| 0:58.9 | She didn't know, couldn't know, that she was getting a glimpse of the real mic, the one who only came out at night. |
| 1:07.1 | And he said, oh, say hi. |
| 1:22.5 | Music And he said, oh, say hi. I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is Betrayal, Season 5, Episode 2, in sickness and in health. |
| 1:31.8 | We're going to return to that night a few days before the wedding when Saskia saw |
| 1:36.8 | something on Mike's computer. But to understand what was going on there and all that came next, |
| 1:43.3 | we need to go back in time because this wasn't |
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