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On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

In 'Secret City,' author James Kirchick traces the unknown history of gay Washington

On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

WBUR

Talk Show, News, Npr, Daily, On Point

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Post-World War II, there was something seen as even worse than being a communist in U.S. politics: being gay. We discuss how lives and careers were lost through decades of bipartisan homophobia. James Kirchick joins Meghna Chakrabarti.

Transcript

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This is on point.

0:20.0

I'm Megna Chakrabardi.

0:21.5

Even if there are only one Communist in the State Department,

0:24.2

that would still be one Communist, two minutes.

0:27.2

Senator Joseph McCarthy there on February 9, 1950 in Wheeling, West Virginia.

0:37.1

That iconic and infamous speech in which McCarthy waved a piece of paper before the crowd.

0:43.0

A list of 205 names of supposed Communists who'd infiltrated the State Department.

0:49.6

Now McCarthy never produced any evidence that there was even one Communist in the State

0:55.5

Department.

0:57.0

He had struck a cord and he launched the Red Scare.

1:00.7

The anti-communist witch hunt lasted approximately four years under McCarthy.

1:05.3

But there was another contemporary scare that lasted even longer.

1:10.6

On February 28, 1950, so just a few weeks after McCarthy's original speech, US Undersecretary

1:18.2

of State John Purfoy testified that since 1947, the State Department had dismissed some

1:24.6

200 employees who were considered poor security risks.

1:29.1

But what risk exactly did they pose?

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