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across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to DSR's Words Matter this Christmas week.

I'm David Rothkoff, your host, and we're joined by the Christmas elf himself, Norm Ornstein, who's in some sunny climb enjoying the season while tan it.

Right, Norm?

If only.

But it is a sunny climb, I have to say.

I will also say that I am in Florida, but I would not come to Florida if it weren't out of necessity.

Because Florida, I am in a place called Longboat Key, which is right by Sarasoga.

It's a beautiful, beautiful spot, ravaged by the hurricanes last year.

But it's also become the home of the proud boys and

the oath keepers. Michael Flynn lives down here. They actually tried. This is, Longboat Key is this

very narrow spit with the bay on one side and the Gulf on the other. And it's on one road, Gulf of Mexico Drive.

They tried, DeSantis tried, to change every Gulf of Mexico drive to Gulf of America drive.

And this MAGA area, when they heard that they would have to replace all the

signs and raise taxes to do so, said, no thank you. So at least I wouldn't call it a bright

spot because it was all about money. But this remains the Gulf of Mexico Drive.

Well, that was just what he was getting started with the naming thing.

Now he's real John.

Right.

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