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Deadline: White House

“In plain sight”

Deadline: White House

MSNBC

News, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on Trump’s controversial pardons for political allies, the alarming spike in threats against federal judges, and another legal setback for Trump in his targeting of law firms. Joined by: Harry Litman, Elizabeth Oyer, Alex Wagner, Nicholas Kristof, Judge J. Michael Luttig, Judge Esther Salas, and Marc Elias.

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0:00.0

Hi there, everybody. Happy Wednesday. It's now four o'clock in New York. When it comes down to it,

0:12.6

it is a rather kingly power. Even the founders, so opposed to a monarchy, put it right there in the

0:19.2

Constitution. Article 2, Section 2,

0:21.6

the President has the authority to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United

0:27.0

States. To pardon someone is to completely circumvent the will of juries and courts,

0:33.9

presumably in the name or spirit of forgiveness and mercy and second chances.

0:39.3

So what happens when that power, a relic of 7th century England, is completely publicly, brazenly corrupted?

0:49.7

It will let you decide for yourself.

0:51.4

There are three cases to consider just today.

0:54.2

First, that of Todd and Julie Crisley.

0:57.2

Viewers of reality TV might know their names.

1:00.0

In 2022, a jury in a federal trial found them guilty of fraud, tax evasion, and conspiracy

1:07.1

to defraud the United States.

1:09.5

Their sentence, 12 years for Todd, seven years for Julie. Pretty cut and dry, case closed, see you in 7 and 12 years. Until, in February, the couple sought presidential pardons. Here's the appeal made by their daughter without evidence on Fox News last month.

1:32.3

Originally, they were not going to prosecute because they said it was very weak. They didn't have the evidence that they needed to prosecute, that it just, it wasn't a case.

1:37.3

It took nine years to issue a federal indictment.

1:39.3

Both prosecutors were Democrats.

1:41.3

They have donated to Democratic candidates. And from at trial, we knew it was game over.

1:51.6

Fast forward to this afternoon. And the Crisleys are now expecting a pardon as soon as today from Donald J. Trump.

1:59.6

Now stick a pin in that one and let's look at another.

2:02.5

It took just two hours for a jury to convict Scott Jenkins, the former sheriff of Culpeper County,

2:08.2

Virginia on all counts in what is called a cash for badges scheme. The government's evidence

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