In new novels, marriages are tested by a last request and a moment in the spotlight
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🗓️ 5 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. Ideally, a marriage lasts a long time, |
| 0:09.3 | but just because a relationship goes the distance, it doesn't mean things get easier. In a bit, |
| 0:15.5 | Craig Thomas co-creator of the sitcom How I Venture Mother on his new novel, which does closely resemble his |
| 0:21.5 | own life. But first, Anne Packer's novel, Some Bright Nowhere, features a long marriage that is |
| 0:27.5 | coming towards its end because someone is dying. But she's got to ask, and it's a big one. |
| 0:34.8 | Packer talks at NPR's Louise Kelly. After the break. |
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| 0:53.0 | Tease and Cs Apply. |
| 0:54.3 | The new novel, Some Brate Nowhere, focuses tightly on a long, mostly happily married couple. |
| 1:01.7 | Elliot and Claire have raised two children, built two careers. |
| 1:06.0 | By the time we meet them, Claire is very sick. |
| 1:09.3 | The book opens with her final visit to her oncologist |
| 1:12.5 | and with her making a brutal request of her husband. Anne Packer is the author. She's with us |
| 1:19.2 | now from New York. Diane. Hi. Describe the request. So Elliot's been taking care of Claire |
| 1:25.7 | since her diagnosis, eight years before the book starts, |
| 1:28.9 | and she says that she would like her closest women friends to be in the house with her taking |
| 1:36.6 | care of her during her final days and weeks and for Elliot to move out. |
| 1:42.0 | This struck me as so incredibly cruel. Is it? Is that the way you meant? |
| 1:47.2 | I didn't mean it as cruel. No, I meant it as a reflection of her deep feelings in a very scary |
| 1:56.3 | and sad moment in her life. And in fact, when she makes the request, |
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