Hello and welcome to a special edition of the Richete Podcast. I am Rob Long. I'm here with Andy McCarthy. You might remember there was a middle of the podcast we had last week. Andy was a guest and he and I started talking about stuff.

And he made a tragic error and he said,

you know, we could probably talk about this another time.

And this is that other time.

So we roped him into it.

How you doing Andy?

I'm doing great, Rob.

Glad to be with you.

Yeah, thank you.

Thank you.

So all right, we were talking about the Michael Flynn case.

And when we first talked about it, what I plan to talk about today was just how

weird it was that they had set a perjury trap with no underlying crime,

whether this happens all the time,

whether this is normal,

whether we're just looking at something

that is in fact kind of business as usual,

maybe not the right kind of business as usual,

but business as usual, and now is sort of being

exposed but in the intervening days two other things have happened that are pretty

weird one is the judge Emit Sullivan

has decided to sort of become an investigator of his own,

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