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In 'Lessons in Chemistry' a chemist is the star of... a cooking show?

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4.2672 Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Bonnie Garmus' novel Lessons in Chemistry got a lot of buzz when it was first released in 2022. Elizabeth Zott is a talented chemist but because it's the 1960s, she faces sexism in her quest to work as a scientist. So instead, she has a cooking show that is wildly popular. In this encore episode, Garmus told NPR's Scott Simon that the character of Elizabeth lived in her head for many years before she started writing this novel.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Andrew. Just the heads up this week on the show, we are revisiting some of our favorite

0:04.7

summer reads. We've got some classic beach reads, family dramas, love stories, all kinds of books

0:10.3

to get you through a vacation, or for you to appreciate from the comfort of an air-conditioned library.

0:17.0

Enjoy.

0:19.7

Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day.

0:21.7

I'm Andrew Limbaugh.

0:23.2

Bonnie Garmes' debut novel, Lessons in Chemistry, is getting lots of praise right now.

0:28.2

It got rave reviews in the New York Times and Washington Post and is being recommended by folks on the morning talk shows.

0:35.0

She talked with NPR Scott Simon recently about writing the book,

0:37.8

and she mentioned this thing about how the book's main character, Elizabeth Zott,

0:41.9

has been living in her head for a long time now and was actually a minor character in some

0:47.3

other book Garmich had shelved years ago. But when Garmus was having a rough day at her job,

0:53.0

she'd come home at night and talk to her, find out more about her.

0:57.0

It's one of those stories that makes you think about that novel you've got tucked away.

1:00.8

Maybe in some random miscellaneous folder on your desktop or just like tucked away on the shelf of your head.

1:07.5

And maybe it's time to pay those guys a visit.

1:11.0

Elizabeth Zod is a chemist who hosts a cooking show because of the early 1960s.

1:16.7

And sexism, double standards, outright assault, scientific theft and discrimination,

1:21.8

all keep her from working as an actual scientist. But her TV show, supper at six,

1:29.5

and what she calls vinegar and salt,

1:36.0

acetic acid with a pinch of sodium chloride, becomes a huge hit in Bonnie Garmus' debut novel,

1:40.9

Lessons in Chemistry, and Bonnie Garmus, who's been a copywriter, creative director,

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