Hey, it's Empire's book of the day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. In conversations about climate change,

you hear a lot about numbers, how it's X degrees hotter this year than last, or the Y amount

of greenhouse gases we are emitting into the atmosphere. But Kate Marvel is a climate scientist

whose new book, Human Nature, talks about climate change in, well, more human terms, emotions.

And in this interview with NPR Scott Simon, they touch on one emotion that you don't hear a lot about in climate conversations.

Pride. That's coming up.

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This is Weekend Edition from NPR News. I'm Scott Simon.

Kate Marvel, the climate scientist who is testified before Congress and been a lead author

of the U.S. National Climate Assessment begins her new book with a confession.

I need to declare a conflict of interest regarding Earth.

Everyone I love lives here.

She then does what some might deem unscientific.

She explores climate change through nine emotions.

They include anger, fear, and hope for the human future in a world beset by more heat, storms, and uncertainty.

Kate Marvel, author of the new book Human Nature, joins us in our studios.

Thanks so much for being with us.

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