Welcome to In Her Shoes. I'm Stella Bugbee, editor at large for New York magazine.

On this podcast, we talk to ambitious women about how they've come this far and where they're going next.

And on this episode, we're speaking to Tamron Hall.

Tamron is a force.

If you've ever seen her on TV, you know she radiates this warm intelligence and curiosity about the world.

She's also very stylish.

She's been on television for decades.

See NBC, NBC, the Discovery Channel, and many, many more,

eventually finding her way to the Today Show

as the first black woman to host it.

Now, she's the executive producer of her own talk show in her second season.

If something is worth tackling, Tamran is talking about it.

I've been a fan of hers for years, but recently I saw the interview she did with a politician

named Andrew Gillum, and it made me want to talk to her more about her work.

Gillum was the mayor of Tallahassee, and at the of 41 he was considered by many to be a promising Democrat with national potential

until he was found unconscious, naked in a hotel room in what seemed to be a compromising sex scandal.

It's the kind of story that broke many people's hearts, most of all his and his families.

Tammon's interview with Gillum and his wife a few months after the scandal was so sensitive and real,

so thoughtful and nuanced, it made me reconsider the role of journalists in moments like these

for people in the public eye.

Anyway, if you haven't seen it, Google. moments like these for people in the public eye.

Anyway, if you haven't seen it, Google it. But in the meantime, here's Cameron.

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