Welcome to In Her Shoes. I'm Lindsay Peoples-Wagner Editor in Chief of the Cut. On this podcast,

we talk to ambitious women about how they come this far and where they're going next.

In this episode, New York Magazine editor-at-large Stella Bugby sat down with crazy ex-girlfriend

star Rachel Bloom. The American actor and comedy singer-songwriter spoke to us about motherhood,

writing a memoir in quarantine and why she hates when people call her show my crazy ex-girlfriend.

Here's how it went.

Hi, it's just us. Oh, finally. I know. I've been waiting for this. So thanks for joining us.

You know, regular readers of the Cut will know that you published an excerpt of your book,

your recent book on the Cut about masturbating well-pregnant. And I actually want to start there

with this interview. Great. Just to say that so it's been a really rough year and

you know, we've had COVID and you've had a baby and you've done a book and I wanted to ask which was

worse. That's so funny. Wow. Because like writing a book seems like an absolute nightmare to me.

It's really hard. It's really hard because it's the sheer amount of pages are mind-boggling.

And when you're writing a script or even a screenplay, sure, it's a lot of pages,

but it's dialogue or action. So there's a lot of spaces. You're not filling a page in the same

way with a book. You are filling pages. It's really hard. I would say an order of difficulty.

I would say giving birth is harder. Oh, wait, was it COVID? What's the competition?

Let's address this. It's COVID, having a baby like giving birth and writing a book.

Okay, I was like, COVID is the hardest, obviously. Just because it's a pandemic.

I guess I'll say having a baby's heart or follow by writing a book, but writing a book is quite hard.

It's like worse. I don't know. I know a lot of people who write books and the depths of their

despair is profound. Worse than the moms, I know, who've pushed babies out of their bodies.

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