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The Trey Gowdy Podcast

In Conversation with Justice Neil Gorsuch

The Trey Gowdy Podcast

FOX News Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Politics, Society & Culture

4.76.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch joins Trey to discuss his new book, Heroes of 1776, and the revolutionary ideas that still define the American spirit. Justice Gorsuch dissects the critical distinction between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, the "gallows humor" shared by the original signers who faced treason charges, and why civic education is the key to preserving the Republic for the next generation. This interview first aired on Sunday, 05/10, on Sunday Night in America. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's rare to sit down with a member of the Supreme Court.

0:09.0

They're not able to talk about cases or politics. It's rare to sit down with a member of the Supreme Court.

0:21.6

They're not able to talk about cases or politics or even defend their work.

0:26.6

But Justice Neil Gorsuch has written a book about one of the most important topics of all.

0:31.6

Us. How we came into being. How we can keep this republic.

0:36.6

We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created in how we came into being, how we can keep this republic.

0:42.0

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.

0:44.7

The pen belonged to Thomas Jefferson.

0:55.0

He said these truths were self-evident, but in reality, they were anything but what our founding fathers devised was radical and revolutionary. And when it came time to codify those aspirations into a constitution,

1:00.0

we set perfection as the goal in order to form a more perfect union.

1:08.0

And we're still working towards that more perfect union. Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote a

1:13.6

children's book titled The Heroes of 1776, which by the way is also relevant for adults.

1:21.1

He looks back at the Declaration of Independence and the brave men and women who risked their lives

1:26.4

to form this majestic idea we call

1:30.4

the United States of America.

1:34.6

Justice, let me say, first of all, thank you.

1:36.7

It is a rare treat to sit down with the justice on the Supreme Court.

1:40.3

So initially, thank you for doing this.

1:42.6

I'm so delighted to be here.

1:43.9

Thank you, Trey.

1:45.1

I know we call this a children's book.

1:47.1

I read it twice, and I learned something new both times I read it.

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