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Hello and welcome along to the final following podcast where the show goes on.

I'm your host, Demer Kennedy, alongside a man who have wanted to have in the show for quite some time and the stars have aligned if you like all the way from Hong Kong a very familiar face but a first time voice in the final foreign podcast, it's Graham Cunningham.

Evert, nice to hear from you.

Thanks for asking me to be on today.

It's a pleasure and I hope everyone's doing okay at home.

I know it's a really, really tough time there at home.

Yeah, that's the issue is from a sporting perspective,

you're sort of the epicenter for us now. You're kind of the focus of Sky Sports Racing's coverage. We've

Chatin, we're recording on Tuesday, so Chatin will be given us a nice dirt

card tomorrow. By dirt I mean the surface and not the standard of racing obviously,

and Happy Valley has been the center of our focus as well.

I remember when I was getting into racing initially reading an expert saying that you should watch as much racing as possible,

international as well as Irish and the UK, because it'll help you understand the sport more.

First of all my question to you then is you're still racing in Chautin and Happy Valley

and for the Hong Kong Jockey Club things continue.

How is life over there right now?

It's unusual, but it's not lockdown mode. I speak to friends and family at home and often their first question is how you get in on over there?

It's been really bad hasn't it and I think spin the coin it looks a lot worse in the other

direction from from where I'm sitting at them and I'm sorry to say that. Here things

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