America loves its founding fathers, but that's a tough act to follow as a founding son.

I'm Bob Crawford. Join me, Patrick Warburton, and Nick Offerman, as we bring the sixth

president to life. Was there ever witnessed such a bare-faced corruption in any country before?

Let justice be done, though the heavens fall!

Listen to Founding Son, a curiosity podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Family Secrets is a production of I Heart Radio.

Now, if you look at the word healing and its word origins, it comes from an angle of sex and

work full-holeness. So you're literally the process of being whole, which begs the question.

But you know, aren't I holding the first place? Well, yes, in essence you are, but as a result,

trauma. You get cut off from parts of yourself. That's Dr. Gabor Matay, physician, renowned

speaker, and best-selling author of five books, including most recently, The Myth of Normal.

Dr. Matay is a leading expert in the field of trauma, addiction, and childhood development.

I'm Danny Shapiro, and this is a special bonus episode of Family Secrets. The secrets that are

kept from us, the secrets we keep from others, and the secrets we keep from ourselves.

Early in your book, you recount a moment from a commencement speech by David Foster Wallace.

It's a parable of two young fish who encounter an elder fish on their aquatic paths,

and the elder says to the younger fish, Morning Boys, House of Water, and the elder fish says,

what the hell is water? What does this story mean to you? Well, it means exactly what David Foster

followed, what was intended it to mean, which is that sometimes the things that we were most used to

and really swimming in, we don't recognize it, we use the swim, it's normal, we just

are not even related to it, we just carry on our merry way without actually being aware of the

milieu that we're in, of the impact of the milieu you're on us. So those bayonets the everyday things

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