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This is Five Live Boxing.

So in a week when three enormous fights are taking place in all sorts of places,

well, Wolverhampton, Tokyo and Las Vegas.

I decided to sit down with Ben Shalom, the boss at Boxer,

the man with the deal with the BBC.

The man who seems to be well always getting stick from just about everybody.

I'm Steve Bunce and this is Five Live Boxing.

So inside one of those fancy workspaces that you get all over the country,

there's palm trees, double espresso machines,

a table tennis table. In fact, if anyone fancies this game with table tennis, Ben Shalom and I are going to have to move because we're right in the way of the forearm. The four-arm return. First of all, Ben, how are you? How are you? Very well. I'm very well. I had there. We're? Tell the truth. Yeah, I just said to Steve, I had my

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