From him for your music, this is Latino, I'm Felix Contreras.

And I'm Ana Maria Sayer, let the cheese may begin.

Okay Ana, you know, I'm a drummer and you know I'm always talking about drumming, listening

to rhythms on records before the lyrics, just drums, drums, drums, drums, right?

I don't know if people realize how obsessed you are. Felix, like I need people to know that

I think every morning when you wake up, the first thing you think about is drumming and every night

when you go to bed it's a lasting. It's like when people talk about the super romantic thing of

like you're the first in the lot, like that's you. It's pretty close man.

Which is why this week I'm pretty excited because I had a chance to talk to a musician who

has carved out a place for herself and other women in the music industry that followed her

will also happen to be a drummer. Sheila Escavino or Sheila A.

I saw her perform with her dad when she was 16 years old and David's California UC Davis.

I was 15, I was a wannabe conga player and I was blown away by her talent even then at 16

years old. Wait, wait, wait, Felix played with her dad. Her dad is Pete Escavino and he was a

Latin jazz artist in Zoom right, played with a lot of bands in the Bay areas in the 60s and then

and then eventually started his own band with his brother Cok Escavino in the late 1970s called

Esteka and so I saw Sheila play with Esteka probably like 1970, 75, 76 somewhere around there.

She became known to me through her dad but then even then she had an amazing skill and stood out

even then and it was easy to see in hindsight how she would create this career for herself

in the music industry because she's done all kinds of stuff. I've seen her perform with jazz bands.

I saw her perform with Lionel Richie once, the pop singer, she's done all this amazing behind

the scene stuff like being music director for live performances, for live award shows, things

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