Why hello there, listener friends! Today, we bring you the very clever Cole Brown. Cole is a twenty-five-year-old author and writer who has just published his first critically acclaimed book, Greyboy. It’s a series of essays written about life at the intersection of class and race, where in it, Cole shares so many valuable personal insights on white privilege, racism, and black identity. In this chat, Cole talks about what it’s like growing up black in America when you don’t quite fit the stereotype of what the world tells you being black looks like. And then, how Cole feels sharing his most personal trauma with the masses, as well as his thoughts on the upcoming U.S. election. If you’d like more from Cole, do yourself a favour and grab his debut book, ‘Greyboy: Finding Blackness in a White World’, here. Enjoyed this chat with Cole? Well, we think you’ll also love our interviews with Jennifer Atilemile and Georgie Dent. Thank you so much to today’s sponsor, Somersby Sparkling Selections. Head here to check it out. If this is your first time checking us out (hey, you), we are an independent media company that is dedicated to telling young women’s stories. The best way to support Shameless is to click ‘Subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘Follow’ on your Spotify app, and to tell your mates about us. We will reward such good behaviour with a puppy! Not everything in this paragraph is true! But wait! There’s more! Our back catalogue of In Conversation interviews. Follow Shameless on Instagram. Join our book club Facebook Group. Subscribe to the weekly Shameless recommendations newsletter. Grab a copy of our first book, The Space Between. We cherish your feedback on the show, and would bloody love to hear your wonderful voices. If you’d like to weigh in on an episode - whether it be a segment in a Monday episode, an In Conversation guest, or this month’s book club pick, we’d love for you to call our Shameless Hotline. You miiiiight just be featured on an episode. Thanks so much for lending us your ears for this episode! Have a great day! Stay hydrated! This episode was produced by Annabelle Lee for Shameless Media.