Hello, current affairs listeners. This is contributing editor Eli Massey, and I am joined by my

colleague, editor-in-chief, Nathan J. Robinson. Hello, Nathan. Hello. And we are also joined by

Bronco Marchteach, who is a staff writer at Jacobin, and he has a new book out from Verso called

Yesterday's Man, and it is on Joe Biden. I've Jacobin, and he has a new book out from Verso called Yesterday's Man,

and it is on Joe Biden. I've read it, and I urge everyone to pick up a copy. Thank you for joining

us, Bronco. Thank you for having me. Yeah. It's an honor and a pleasure. So let's start

pretty basic. Why write a book about Biden? Well, you know, I don't know if you've been

paying attention to the,

the ups and downs of the presidential campaign for the past year, but Joe Biden has sort of

entered as the frontrunner and he's against all odds in many ways, and against all

sense and reason, he's remained at the top of the ticket.

And there's a very good chance that he would end up the Democratic nominee

come June or July 2020 whenever the convention is and I think that's a really bad thing

for a number of reasons which I would you know I'm sure we'll get into as we continue this

interview but also anyone who is keen to find out why obviously can pick up the book as well for a moment.

Yeah.

So Joe Biden has run for president before, and every time his candidacy has kind of flamed out,

you don't think that's going to happen this time?

I mean, they very well could, because obviously his support is very soft.

I mean, he came in with, like, what, like 40% or something. I mean he was like as soon as he entered,

people were kind of, for a while they were talking

about Sanders as the frontrunner.

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