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Welcome to the Advisory Opinions Podcast. This is David French with Sarah Isger.

We are going to start with something that has nothing to do with coronavirus, which either may seem off topic to you or a relief.

But that's what we are going to do. We are going to start by talking about where does the Bernie Sanders movement go.

We are going to talk about the chief bankruptcy judge from the Southern District of Texas, David Jones.

Sarah knows everybody. Sarah is able to secure an interview with him as to how the court systems are handling coronavirus.

Is he seeing any upticks in bankruptcy? Why is it that certain businesses are more vulnerable and fragile perhaps than others?

That was a fascinating conversation that we pre-recorded. So we are going to have that. That's going to sound a little bit different in the middle.

We are going to end with a question about whether hunkering down in the face of coronavirus is contrary in some ways to sort of this essential American restless energy that we have and what that's going to mean for our efforts to confront the virus.

So without further ado, as Sarah, as you say, in the non-fragship dispatch podcast, because this is the flagship, let's dive right in.

Let's do it.

As I said in the dispatch podcast, I never thought I'd say these words in my life.

But Joe Biden just nuke the Bernie Sanders movement from orbit. Joe Biden. That is not something too many people anticipated.

They did not anticipate the route. This was supposed to be the revolution. It is not the revolution. It's turning out more like the more like the barricades and lay Ms. Arab than the American revolution.

I love lay Ms. Arab. So you couldn't have picked a better analogy for me.

And so where do they go from here, Sarah?

So I think what's interesting to me is that I certainly thought that the left would have the same movement to the edge as the right had.

So there was going to be a leftward response to the Tea Party movement, basically.

And that was then Bernie Sanders movement. It made a lot of sense. This hyper progressive democratic socialist movement.

What is most fascinating to me is that it has actually weakened from 2016. It is not getting stronger.

And that if you're a progressive right now, you would have been better off probably with Bernie not running again and being able to point back to the strength of the 2016 movement and AOC and some of these other elections.

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