In and Out of Uniform with Lisa Kirk
The Trauma Therapist
Guy Crawford Macpherson
4.5 • 581 Ratings
🗓️ 27 October 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Lisa is the author of In and Out of Uniform, a memoir published in 2019 that shares the highs and lows of her military career, including experiences with MST, assault, suicide, mTBI, and the resilience that carried her through.
She spoke out to break the silence many still carry, knowing the toll unspoken trauma can take. Lisa also runs a small paint party business, “Create With Lisee,” and is passionate about becoming a guest speaker to advocate for those who feel they can’t speak for themselves.
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| 1:18.8 | incummental.com. That's I-N-C-U-M-E-N-T-A-L.com. Welcome to the Trauma Ther's podcast. My name is Guy McPherson, and I interview incredible people who share the story of how |
| 1:32.0 | trauma has shaped their lives. |
| 1:34.2 | And a big thank you for sponsoring today's episode goes to my guest and our sponsors. |
| 1:44.1 | So five, four, three, 2, and 1. |
| 1:47.5 | Okay, I can do that. |
| 1:48.1 | Our folks, welcome back to the podcast. |
| 1:49.8 | I'm very excited to have us like this today. |
| 1:51.3 | Lisa Kirk, Lisa, welcome. |
| 1:54.7 | You are welcome. |
| 1:56.2 | So Lisa is a retired Army veteran who served 21 and a half years in the military police corps |
| 2:01.5 | with deployments in peacekeeping machines and in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. |
| 2:07.0 | She's the author of In and Out of Uniform, a memoir published in 2019, |
| 2:11.9 | that shares the highs and lows of her military career, |
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