The more relaxed I am,

I am. And I think this is over, I mean this is over years of,

my basic warm-up is just being relaxed enough to go out there

and be confident that I have nothing and

then just going to work with people. See I'm always with people. So if I die I'm

taking people with me. It gets better because it has to get better.

We're all made of human. Hello, my name is Sophie Hagen and I am a stand-up comedian and you're listening to my

podcast called The Made of Human Podcast on short Mopod. It is a podcast in which I speak to people and hopefully more than speak. I'm not good at small talk, I'm really not and I just want to talk about real life stuff.

You know, all the dirty bits in order to learn more about people and the world and to feel less alone, I guess.

This week I am speaking to Colin Muckry.

Colin Muckry, if you don't know who...

I mean, you know who he is.

You do know who he is.

You might not be able to put like a face to the name,

but Google him.

It's Colin...

Fucking Macri. but Google him. It's Colin K

K Kukri. I'm so starstrucky.

Oh my God, it's one of the funniest people in the world

and I'm a huge fan and so this was a big deal and I'll let

you listen to our chat in just a little bit first I need to tell you that I'm going on

tour with my brand new show Dead Baby Frog. It is a stand-up show about emotional abuse.

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