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This is Jill Tibbles and I'm in the studio with Tom Ziggler.

That's Zigg's son. He is also the CEO of Ziegler Inc.

And Tom and I were discussing the fact that we are getting daily emails asking us, how do we get through this tough economy how do we get

to this situation with a positive outlook and I know Tom you've had some good conversations with people.

Yeah, I've just before we before we go into that Jill do you do you have any friends who've lost their job or

fearful of losing their jobs? I well, yeah I've had friends that have lost their jobs. I also have a

guy that he works, he worked in a department of 100 people. They're now down to 13.

And so I commented to his wife, I said, so I guess a lot of the projects that they were working on have gone away, and she said no.

So they're all, they're just scrambling really hard to try and do as much work as they can with as few hands as they can and that's tough.

I mean he's got to have a job but it's tough on all fronts yeah.

Yeah.

Well you know with with our reach and our newsletter and all the things that we do we get emails

literally every day and I don't know of anybody who doesn't have a family or close friend

a family member or a close friend who hasn't been impacted directly.

So one of the things that you've just,

you've got a guard is your self-image.

Is your attitude, is the way you look at things in this economy, and you have to prepare extra and what dad has always

said is you are who you are and what you are because of what's gone into your

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