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Import-extort: what to make of Donald Trump’s titanic tariffs

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The Economist

News & Politics, News

4.44.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

After months of bluster, he’s finally done it. At a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden, Donald Trump overturned decades of American trade policy with a simple signature. The new wave of trade restrictions, if implemented in full, will raise tariffs to the highest level in more than a century. So how bad could it get?


Hosts: Mike Bird and Ethan Wu. Guests: The Economist’s Simon Rabinovitch; and Douglas Irwin, a professor of economics at Dartmouth College.


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0:00.0

The Economist.

0:10.3

My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day.

0:17.5

On Wednesday afternoon, President Donald Trump stood in the White House Rose Garden

0:23.6

and announced a generational shift in U.S. trade policy.

0:27.6

April 2nd, 2025 will forever be remembered as the day American industry was reborn

0:35.6

and the day that we began to make America wealthy again.

0:42.7

Trump blames America's addiction to imports for the hollowing out of the country's industrial heartlands.

0:49.6

In short, chronic trade deficits are no longer merely an economic problem.

0:53.8

They're a national emergency that threatens our security and our very way of life.

1:00.0

His solution? Immense tariffs illustrated on a large cardboard chart.

1:07.0

I'd like to see the chart if you have it. Could you bring it up Howard?

1:11.6

In the left-hand column is a list of countries.

1:15.2

Next to each one is a percentage figure, which is the tariff to Trump administration says the country charges the U.S., though without any evidence.

1:25.0

Next to that is another figure, the new tariff that America will impose on goods

1:30.3

that country exports to the U.S.

1:33.3

China, first row, China, 67%, that's tariffs charged to the USA, including currency manipulation

1:42.3

and trade barriers. So we're going to be charging a discounted reciprocal tariff of 34%.

1:48.9

In other words, they charge us, we charge them.

1:51.5

We charge them less.

1:52.4

So how can anybody be upset?

1:54.3

And it's not just America's adversaries.

1:57.4

You know, you think of European Union very friendly.

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