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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Fudgema.

This is the Older Scrolls podcast.

I'm Scott here with Michael and Drew as always,

and today we are tackling the big one.

We are doing Imperials versus Stormclerks.

And as far as I'm aware, we're not taking any particular side.

It's kind of like, you know, circling around all the different ideas and so on.

And we want to basically discuss both sides, the benefits of sides, whether it's like their rhetoric or like culture or even the practical elements. Like we're kind of going to discuss it all. But there'll be a lot of like devil as advocate playing here. Like we don't just want to go like, oh, yeah, this side. Yeah, they're the right one. They're the good guys or so on. Because I'm excited to talk about, but everyone, I feel like there's a very dominant sort of imperials are undisputably, the good

guides and everything's great about them. And it's kind of like picking the best of two bad

options rather than just this sort of... We're going full season unending mode where we're just

sitting in the middle listening to all the good points and bad points for both. And we're not 100% taking sides.

I mean, my Falmore roads are in the wash, so we can't take their side.

I suppose they all suck is one of the points we'll be getting to in their own way.

It's just like voting in general, man.

I kind of, you know, pick between the shit.

I think we could start with maybe some like clarifying things, but like we've got to understand

these societies are like so far removed from our modern conceptions of morality and so on.

And like everyone's kind of got this, you know, ideas like, oh, Ulfrix a dictator.

Ooh, like all kings are dictators. What do you think an emperor is? You know what I mean? Like, they're like, it's an empire. It's all dictators. It's empire's king. Even the elder council, even the elder council sounds very like corrupt and Illuminati anyway. Look, there you consider things like that. There's levels of

bureaucracy all around like you know you could think of like the dark elves and their councils and so on

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