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Imperfect Paradise: Reports about failures in response to the January LA fires and a 2018 fire have striking similarities

Norco 80

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🗓️ 3 October 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

A new report details the Eaton and Palisades fires, including failures in the emergency response. But this report bears striking similarities with another -- which chronicled the response to the 2018 Woolsey Fire in Southern California. LAist science reporter Jacob Margolis discusses the reports and what they mean for L.A. County moving forward.

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0:00.0

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0:12.3

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0:27.9

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0:37.5

Hey, this is in Perfect Paradise.

0:40.0

I'm Antonio Serejillo.

0:41.5

It's been nine months since the devastating Eaton and Palisades fires swept through Altadena and the Pacific Palisades.

0:49.0

Finally, we're getting some deep insight into what went wrong.

0:53.3

That clarity is coming thanks to an

0:55.1

after-action report released last week. Particularly with elected officials, when they say we couldn't

1:00.6

have seen this coming and this was unimaginable, people need to push back aggressively against

1:05.3

that level of bullshit. Today on Imperfect Paradise, we're speaking with LAS science reporter Jacob Margolis about that report,

1:14.4

which examined alerts and evacuations that authority sent out during the January fires.

1:20.2

Jacob is going to break down that report and what went wrong and also talk about the alarming similarities he saw in an after-action report released six years ago

1:29.3

after the 2018 Woolsey Fire.

1:33.1

Jacob, thanks so much for being on Imperfect Paradise.

1:35.9

Thanks for having me.

1:37.2

So, okay, before we get into this report, I think it's important to note that the fire authorities

1:41.5

in Southern California are some of the largest and most well-resourced

1:45.1

agencies around the world. You covered the Eden and Palisades fires back in January and the

1:50.7

recovery and cleanup efforts that have followed. Given everything that you've reported as a journalist

1:55.8

who's covered fires for years, what were some of the big lingering questions you had?

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