Hey pull up a chair. It's tax on tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.

It's great to be back. Good to see you. Yes, good to have you back. You were less seen

shooting down alligator Alley in Florida and open a car dealership exactly exactly and it all

went as planned the the alligator suit guy showed up the balloons were there everything was everything was

you moved a couple of Hyundai's and Robert Gibbs the inestimable Robert Gibbs did a great job

but sitting in here hope to see and hear more from him in the weeks and months to come but man I

got sensory overload here where here we are the first day of impeachment and you can't you know as

I know that they're astride the country there's this feeling that we all know how it's going to end

but and therefore in some ways it's a kind of peric exercise but you know the weight of it is still

is still there and now we have a sense of what the arguments are and one thing I wanted to

start off by asking you about is this what what is the impact of this Republican argument which is

essentially yeah he did it so what he had he was within his rights to to do what he did with the

Ukrainians and and even if it were an abuse of power abuses of power aren't impeachable so this

whole deal is meaningless yeah well I think part of the you know as seen on TV legal team is there

seem to be two arguments and I'm not sure they're that well coordinated kind of the dirtial

it's argument which is yeah yeah he did it but it you know it's not relevant or not impeachable and

then the other argument is you know that it's it's not how would I put this it's not their business

to investigate this it's not a crime like in a trial of course an impeachment is not the same as

a criminal trial and so you know I think the bigger thing is going to be Trump who refuses to go

down the Clinton model right remoragreened to some sort of steam release which is yeah I'm sorry

or let's move this thing along he wants to trial where Hannity like shows up is the only witness to

defend him and you know basically wants to put the Senate trial in fact we we had a secret leak

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