Hey, it's Run Here.

And this week we wanted to revisit a conversation we had

that feels pretty timely.

It's with the historian Brenda Weinapple,

the author of the book, The Impatures,

the trial of Andrew Johnson,

and the dream of a just nation.

The Impatures details the very first test

of what the founders decided would be the ultimate consequence

for presidential misbehavior.

Presidential impeachment.

So presidential impeachment isn't a foreign concept for most of us.

Throughout all of American history, it's only happened four times.

The point is the country has rarely had to tackle the question

of whether to fire the president and what that would mean,

partly because it's really difficult to impeach a president.

And that's by design.

First, Congress has to decide whether the president has committed

an impeachable offense.

In the Constitution, it's defined as treason,

bribery, or something called high crimes and misdemeanors.

Which, like, what does that even mean?

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