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Impeachment: The Sequel (with Bill Kristol)

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Hacks On Tap

News Commentary, News, Government, Politics

4.87.7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2021

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Bill Kristol, editor-at-large of The Bulwark, joins Axe and Murphy to discuss the historic second impeachment trial of former President Trump and what the Senate’s acquittal means for the future of the GOP. They also analyze some of the early jockeying for the top of the Republican ticket in 2024 and the latest on Biden’s stimulus negotiations.

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0:00.0

Hey, pull up a chair. It's ax on tap with David Axelrot, Robert Gibbs, and Mike Murphy.

0:15.0

The EAs are 57. The NAs are 43. Two-thirds of the senators present not having voted guilty.

0:32.0

The Senate judges that the respondent Donald John Trump, former President of the United States,

0:38.0

is not guilty, has charged the article impeachment.

0:42.0

Well, Murphy, the annual Trump acquittal, has come and gone.

0:49.0

As usual, there's all kinds of stuff left in his wake, especially for your Republicans, but for the country as well.

1:00.0

If you're better to have with us, then your fellow bunker mate, Bill Crystal, who's been so active in the never-Trump world, how you guys feeling today?

1:15.0

Oh, I'm as excited as Pat Leahy, their captain energy boy, how do they hold him back from that fiery statement?

1:24.0

I'm like that for 20 years, let me just wake up. No, I'm pissed off. I'm pissed off for a million obvious reasons. Bill, how are you?

1:33.0

I'm fine. One problem with being part of such a small, highly-fence-bolded, admirable insurgency, is that you don't get to choose all your bunker mates very carefully.

1:42.0

Here I am with Murphy. Here I am with Murphy after 30 years of trying to work with him and try to avoid him.

1:50.0

I'm still not even making trouble for three decades. I'm his last friend in Republican politics. I'm barely hanging on.

1:57.0

If you're looking for Murphy to signify your connection to Republican politics, you're in deep trouble.

2:03.0

It's got a pathetic, it's like some movie. I mentioned Murphy and Murphy mentions me, and we each foolishly think that this shows we really are.

2:11.0

Still have some Republican connections.

2:13.0

But seriously, you guys, everybody is focused. First of all, I was sent a bill before we started rolling here.

2:22.0

I do feel like we ought to note the fact that seven Republicans did stand up in the Senate and ten in the House.

2:31.0

Those were both record numbers for an impeachment of people who left their party or left the party position to vote their consciences.

2:41.0

Then yes, only one of them, Senator Murkowski is up in 2022 and two of them are retiring.

2:47.0

But they did open a big can of whoop on themselves because the Trump world is out for vengeance and Trump himself.

2:56.0

But 43 Republicans voted in contravention of really a very, very clear and compelling case to acquit Trump.

3:12.0

The question is how much do we focus on them or how much do we focus on the 80% of Republican voters who they were channeling in Afraida?

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