Good afternoon from Washington. I'm Chuck Todd and this is the Chuck Toddcast. So today,

being Wednesday, if you're listening to this immediately or later down the road a couple

days from now, but either way, we are taping Wednesday just after the house has formally

approved its impeachment managers, the articles of impeachment, all getting sent to the

Senate. The trial is actually going to happen. There's so much odd choreography that goes

with this that part of me thinks that, you know, maybe this one could be modernized.

Do we need to have the only thing missing, I think, is incense that gets taken from one

side of the chamber to the other. But we'll have this formal thing. Trial is going to

begin Tuesday. We have a presidential campaign where we saw at a debate on Tuesday night, what

is life going to be like when impeachment and the presidential campaign converge, especially

with jurors stuck in Washington, not in Iowa. Later in the show, by the way, I'm going

to be joined by Steve Inskeepy's host of MPR's morning edition. So you will recognize

the voice. Trust me. But we're going to look back in time when America was even more divided.

Stephen I will discuss his fascinating book in perfect union about a political power couple,

Jesse and John Fremont, who in his mind, and it makes the case who helped cause the Civil

War at least have an influence on it. John Fremont, of course, was the first ever nominee

for president for a third party called the Republican Party. He was the one before Lincoln.

At first, I've pulled two great reporters off of Capitol Hill for a few minutes to get

the latest on the impeachment votes, the upcoming processional to deliver the impeachment

articles. It's our own Capitol Hill correspondent here at NBC News, Leon Caldwell, and Washington

posts senior congressional correspondent Paul Kane, Leon and Paul Hyde. Hello. Part of me

has you here because apparently the United States Senate is going to make it impossible

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