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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Impeachment Goes Public

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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Daily News, News, News Commentary

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🗓️ 13 November 2019

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Today, when the House Intelligence Committee comes to order to host the first public impeachment hearings against President Donald Trump, Michael McFaul knows better than most what will happen next. Not only did he serve at the State Department with several of the individuals publicly testifying this week, but he himself testified to the Adam Schiff–chaired committee just a few months ago.

How is the former ambassador to Russia seeing this Ukraine scandal play out? And what does he have to say about the veteran diplomats taking center stage this week at the public impeachment hearings?

Guest: Michael McFaul, former U.S. ambassador to Russia and author of From Cold War to Hot Peace: An American Ambassador in Putin’s Russia.

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0:00.0

Later this morning, the House Intelligence Committee will come to order to host the first

0:09.2

public impeachment hearings against the president. And Michael McFall, he knows better than most people

0:15.7

what's going to happen next. You testified in front of Adam Schiff not so long ago.

0:20.8

Yes.

0:21.8

I looked up your testimony. It was striking to me because it was rough.

0:28.0

Thank you. Will come to order. Without objection, the chair is empowered to declare a recess at any time.

0:34.4

Yeah, it was crazy.

0:36.4

This hearing was back in March, way before the current scandal about Ukraine, before even the Mueller

0:42.6

report was released.

0:43.5

I mean, I've testified for a quarter of a century by now before many different committees,

0:50.1

some controlled by Republicans, some controlled by Democrats.

0:53.8

I have never witnessed the degree of

0:58.1

confrontation that they had among their own members. That went on for an hour before they even

1:03.5

got to us, if you recall. McFall is a former U.S. ambassador to Russia. He came to Capitol

1:09.1

Hill to testify about Russian election interference.

1:12.6

This confrontation he's talking about, it happened after Adam Schiff had opened the hearings,

1:17.8

earnest as ever, somberly laying out the meeting's purpose, which is when the Republican

1:23.7

members of the committee decided to try to jump in and stage some kind of coup.

1:29.3

As such, we have no faith in your ability to discharge your duties in a manner consistent

1:33.9

with your constitutional responsibility and urge your immediate resignation as chairman of the committee.

1:39.5

Mr. Chairman, this letter is signed by all nine members of the Republican side of the House

1:43.9

of the committee, and I ask unanimous to consent the Republican side of the House of the committee.

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