Impeachment Day 5

The Counsel

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics

4.7 • 861 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2021

⏱️ 12 minutes

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In this episode of Third Degree, Elie Honig recaps the fourth day of the Senate impeachment trial, and looks forward to the final hours before the awaited vote. Elie’s analysis doesn’t end with Third Degree.Sign up to receive the CAFE Brief, a weekly newsletter featuring articles by Elie, a weekly roundup of politically charged legal news, and historical lookbacks that help inform our current political challenges: cafe.com/article/the-stay-tuned-newsletter/ Transcript, references and supplemental materials are available on the CAFE website: cafe.com/third-degree-podcast/impeachment-day-5/ Third Degree is produced by CAFE Studios. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio and Music Producer: Nat Weiner; Editorial Producers: Sam Ozer-Staton, Noa Azulai. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.6	From Cafe, this is third degree.
0:34.3	I'm Ellie Honig.
0:44.8	Thank you. I'm Ellie Honig. Welcome back to third degree, everybody.
0:47.0	Another jam-packed day.
0:49.4	The best thing that Donald Trump's lawyers did yesterday was to shut up.
0:56.1	If they wanted it, they had up to 16 hours to present their defense case, but they only used about three and a half of those 16
1:02.6	hours. And to that, I say, thank goodness. Their performance was just dreadful in every sense.
1:09.8	And let me break that down for you.
1:15.9	They were non-responsive. They were poorly presented. They were all over the map. They were
1:21.0	impossible to follow. They were illogical. They had an amateurish, simplistic view of the law.
1:27.1	And all of that is just the benign part.
1:29.7	At one point, Trump's lawyer, Michael Van der Veen, said,
1:33.0	You can't incite what was already going to happen.
1:36.5	Yes, you can. Of course you can, especially if you were the reason it was already going to happen in the first place.
1:43.1	And even worse than that,
1:44.6	Trump's attorneys seem to serve two functions. First, the attorneys almost act as these sort
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