Immigration: Will there ever be a grown up debate?

Rock & Roll Politics with Steve Richards

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Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.6 • 825 Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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It’s the silliest and most dangerous debate of the lot. "Too many are coming here…" "The wrong people are coming here..." "The right people can come here…" "We need vacancies filled, but they can’t come here…" Will the debate on immigration rise above the vitriol, for a solution that benefits everyone? Plus brilliant questions, and much more. Remember to send in your questions to [email protected]! Rock & Roll Politics is live at the Edinburgh Festival from August 13th, with a different show every day! Tickets here: https://tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/steve-richards-presents-rock-n-roll-politics Subscribe to Patreon for bonus episodes, exclusive Zooms and other goodies: https://www.patreon.com/RockNRollPolitics Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to rock and roll politics, the twice weekly podcast with me, Steve Richards.
0:16.7	Thanks so much for tuning in wherever you are in the UK and indeed around the rest of the world.
0:22.5	And you know what I'm going to say next, we have got a lot to cram in in our time together on this podcast.
0:30.6	If it's okay with all of you, I'm going to despair calmly, but remember the calm is an act, about the level of debate in the
0:42.5	UK in relation to immigration. It is, oh, God, it's so low. And I'll explore why and contextualize
0:53.3	to some extent.
0:55.3	The lack of, you know, we delve deeply in this podcast, the lack of delving deeply from any perspective in this immigration debate, which of course is reaching another sort of apoplectic hysterical
1:14.7	de Newmont this week with immigration figures showing an increase. You know, are we got to
1:22.8	protect our borders, Brexit, taking back control? And there we have the increase for reasons which we shall
1:29.9	explore. Anyway, that's what I will be reflecting on. We've got some fantastic emails from you,
1:36.8	including, of course, on that extraordinary gathering last week, the NatCon conference. Yeah, I reflected more last week on the one in Bournemouth.
1:49.3	You had a choice of conferences because when I recorded, the NatCon one had only just kicked off and I
1:53.6	wanted to see it and explore it before reflecting on it. Anyway, the emails give us an opportunity
1:58.9	to reflect a bit on that and many other topics too.
2:03.3	Just one notice, it's a big one. That is, rock and roll politics is back at the Edinburgh
2:09.8	Festival live this August for the last two weeks of the festival. August the 13th to the 26th,
2:20.4	every day and a different show every day,
2:25.6	as we move from one angle to another, one deep theme to another, with some fun.
2:31.8	Tickets are on sale at the fringe website, and it will be at the usual venue, the amphitheater,
2:36.6	the space at Symposium Hall. Do come along and we will have some fun together at the Edinburgh Festival. But we're not going to have fun now, because I'm
2:42.3	going to reflect for a bit on immigration, with several vignettes or observations, which is along these lines. First of all, whenever you hear from
2:57.2	a business leader or a senior figure, like, for example, the Governor of the Bank of England,
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