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I loved going to college.

It's good you can retrain and do something.

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My name is Ian Dun, I'm the editor of Politics.coate UK and the author of How to Be a Liberal.

I'm joined today by Jonathan Porter's, Professor of Economics at Kings College London,

senior fellow of the UK and Changing Europe and my go-to

expert on the economics of immigration. Hello Jonathan, how are you?

Not bad?

So I figured that we would have sort of a conversation generally about the economics of immigration.

But sort of going to the background of it for a moment.

Can you sort of walk us through basically the opportunities and the challenges that immigration throws up for a country like Britain.

I mean, firstly, I suppose the most obviously, you know, what are the opportunities that it offers?

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