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Immigration Detention Expansion During Trump’s Second Term / Nayna Gupta & Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

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🗓️ 26 May 2026

⏱️ 86 minutes

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American Immigration Council's Nayna Gupta and Aaron Reichlin-Melnick join This Is Hell! to discuss their report, "Immigration Detention Expansion in Trump’s Second Term”. https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/immigration-detention/ Nayna Gupta is an immigration attorney, policy expert, and the current Policy Director at the American Immigration Council. Based in Washington, D.C., she leads the Council's legislative, administrative, and policy advocacy portfolio. Her work primarily focuses on immigration enforcement, the U.S. immigration detention system, and the intersection of criminal law and immigration civil policy. She is a frequent commentator on major networks like Al Jazeera, analyzing mass deportation strategies and federal immigration expenditures. Aaron Reichlin-Melnick is a Senior Fellow at the American Immigration Council. He previously worked as a Staff Attorney at the Council, working on impact litigation, Freedom of Information Act litigations, and practice advisories. Prior to joining the Council, he was an Immigrant Justice Corps Fellow placed as a Staff Attorney at the Immigration Law Unit of The Legal Aid Society in New York City, representing immigrants placed in removal proceedings because of a prior criminal conviction. Aaron holds a J.D. from the Georgetown University Law Center and a B.A. in Politics and East Asian Studies from Brandeis University. We will have new installments of Rotten History and Hangover Cure. We will also be sharing your answers to this week's Question from Hell! from Patreon. Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/thisishell

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0:00.0

Take it down to be a lot of power to be

0:04.0

Oh my God

0:07.0

Take a gap This is Pick it back.

0:23.6

This is hell.

0:45.9

Remember, mass incarceration is human trafficking.

0:51.3

So yes, this is hell, and that is especially the case when it comes to what we

0:58.0

will be discussing with our guests today. The Iran War, the Epstein Files, Venezuela, Cuba,

1:04.2

Greenland, Gaza, Ukraine, climate change, the rise of the far right kleptocracy with the

1:09.2

president giving himself his own multi-billion dollar slush fund, the loss of the far right kleptocracy with the president giving himself his own multi-billion

1:12.0

dollar slush fund, the loss of voting rights with so much happening, we may not be giving

1:18.4

the attention necessary to the plight of those caught up in the racist U.S. immigration detention

1:23.4

system, living in horrible, overcrowded conditions with little and no service provided at all,

1:29.9

including health care, and all being purposely hidden from the public. It's a system that is made

1:37.1

to be cruel, to get even law-abiding immigrants to abandon any hope at justice and return to their

1:43.9

home nation, where their

1:44.7

lives are very likely in danger.

1:47.7

It's something to consider when earlier this month White House Bordersar Tom Homan spoke to a room

1:54.3

filled with Department of Homeland Security officials and industry representatives at what was

1:58.9

called the Border Security Expo in Phoenix.

2:02.6

Borders are, Hohman, gave the opening remarks to the Expo, describing how he had a discussion

2:07.6

earlier that morning with Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen about what the administration

2:13.6

will do, quote, in the next couple of months.

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