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The Heidi St. John Podcast

Immigration and the Church’s Courage Crisis with Dr Corey Miller

The Heidi St. John Podcast

Heidi St. John

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.83.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

The church was never meant to sit this one out. Today, Dr. Corey Miller joins me for a bold conversation about immigration, ICE, and the growing courage crisis inside the church. We talk about how compassion has been confused with compromise, why law and order are not unbiblical, and what happens when Christians disengage from the cultural moment. This episode is a wake-up call to step back into the public square with clarity, conviction, and courage.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. This is Heidi St. John. Thanks for tuning into the podcast today. I have always been

0:05.9

fascinated with the intersection of faith and culture. I'm fascinated with the role of God's people

0:12.5

in politics. I'm fascinated with our role in medicine. I'm fascinated with our role in education.

0:19.5

And I think there's something happening in the culture right now,

0:22.9

particularly in the church that is fascinating to me because we're starting to talk about

0:27.6

political issues in the church. We're starting to talk about our issues on the southern border.

0:32.6

We're starting to talk about politics. Thank goodness. It's about time. I live here in the

0:37.1

Pacific Northwest and we've all

0:38.3

but lost the battle for the culture here, largely because I think the church has disengaged

0:43.0

from these really important conversations. And joining me today is my friend Corey Miller.

0:48.3

I am so excited. He's here all the way from the great state of Indiana, but he is the president

0:53.2

and CEO of Rachio Christie,

0:55.2

which is a Christian apologetics ministry. And right now they're active on 100 college campuses

1:01.0

or maybe more. I'm going to ask him. He's a former professor of philosophy and religion and the

1:05.6

author of a book I love called The Progressive Miseducation of America. We're going to tackle some of today's news.

1:13.4

And we're going to talk a little bit about, I don't know, things that are really mellow

1:16.0

like ice.

1:17.4

Seems like a good idea.

1:18.6

This is the Heidi St. John podcast.

1:20.0

Stick around.

1:20.7

I think you're going to be encouraged.

1:31.7

I'm glad you guys are here.

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