IM 867: The Ketchup Effect - The Lines Are Too Damn Long

Intelligent Machines (Audio)

Leo Laporte

Ai, Twit, Artificial Intelligence, Technology

4.2 • 895 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 166 minutes

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Summary

Game designer and Atlantic writer Ian Bogost joins to argue that the true joy of technology is not frictionlessness, but the small sensory pleasures and constraints that keep us tethered to real life. Discover how AI could push us back into the world, not just behind our screens.

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Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Paris Martineau

Guests: Lucas and Ian Bogost

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0:00.0	It's time for Intelligent Machines.
0:01.6	Paris Martino's here.
0:02.5	Jeff Jarvis is here.
0:04.3	We're to talk about the lines.
0:05.8	They're too damn long.
0:07.3	We're also going to talk to Ian Bogost.
0:09.4	He is a contributing writer at the Atlantic, a professor at the Washington University in St. Louis.
0:15.1	And he says, pay attention to the small stuff.
0:18.3	That's the good stuff.
0:19.8	We'll talk about that and a lot of AI news next
0:22.2	on intelligent machines. Podcasts you love from people you trust. This is Twit.
0:35.0	This is Intelligent Machines with Jeff Jarvis and Paris Martino.
0:38.9	Episode 867, recorded Wednesday, April 22nd, 2026.
0:44.6	The Catchup Effect.
0:46.5	It's time for intelligent machines.
0:48.5	The show we cover AI robotics and the smart little doodads and gaws around your house i think that's the
0:56.5	giz gauze is that right i am being corrected now by two professional writers paris martineau is here
1:05.2	investigative journalist at consumer reports hello paris we are both two professional writers and two professional right opinion havers.
1:12.6	Yes. No, as am I.
1:15.6	I apologize because I realized last week I shouted, you're wrong, which is not conducive to good conversation.
1:23.6	We'll have that conversation again.
1:25.6	I was going to say, last week, I don't think that's the only time you've showed it.
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