IM 865: Mythic - Too Dangerous to Release?
Intelligent Machines (Audio)
Leo Laporte
4.2 • 895 Ratings
🗓️ 8 April 2026
⏱️ 147 minutes
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Summary
A secretive AI called Mythos is already finding zero-day exploits that humans missed for decades, but Anthropic claims it is too risky for public release. Hear what leading security experts think could happen if this technology escapes the lab.
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Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Paris Martineau
Guest: Daniel Miessler
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| 0:00.0 | It's time for intelligent machines. Jeff's here. Paris is here. Our guest, Daniel Miesler, |
| 0:04.3 | is a 24-year security expert, but also a YouTube host on Unsupervised Learning and an AI |
| 0:11.3 | guru. We're going to talk about the new Anthropic model mythos. They say it's too dangerous to be |
| 0:17.1 | released. Is it? We'll find out next. |
| 0:22.2 | Podcasts you love. |
| 0:24.1 | From people you trust. |
| 0:26.6 | This is Twit. |
| 0:30.6 | This is Intelligent Machines with Jeff Jarvis and Paris Martino. |
| 0:34.7 | Episode 865, recorded Wednesday, April 8th 2026 mythic it's time for intelligent |
| 0:43.0 | machines to show we talk about AI robotics and all the smart little doodads surrounding us all |
| 0:49.1 | these days paris martineau is here investigative reporter for consumer reports and is Consumer Reports. And his brightly sunlit Brooklyn apartment. |
| 0:57.8 | Yeah, it's getting brighter and brighter here in New York. |
| 1:01.6 | And that's great for me, a person who needs sunlight to feel happiness, |
| 1:05.8 | but bad for me, a person who podcasts from five to eight me in. |
| 1:10.8 | Wow. Yeah, Paris pulls no punches, Daniel. You'll understand that in a moment. |
| 1:16.1 | I love it. Also here, Jeff Jarvis, author of the Gutenberg Parenthesis magazine and his new book, Hot Type, |
| 1:22.5 | coming out in July. You can get that all at jeff Jarvis.com. And of course, Professor Emeritus of |
| 1:27.7 | Journalistic Innovation at the Craig Newmark graduate school at the City University of New York. |
| 1:36.0 | There we go. I thought we'd miss it. I, I, you know, I was going to bypass it and I decided to do it. |
| 1:41.2 | I sensed, I sensed you were on, you were on a fork of the road. I was on my way. |
| 1:44.2 | I was on the right thing. Hey I'm very excited about our guest this week. I've been watching his |
| 1:49.7 | YouTube channel for quite some time. I've installed a number of his tools for AI. He is and I want to |
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