IM 846: Chivelord - From Leather-Bound to Cloud Powered
Intelligent Machines (Audio)
Leo Laporte
4.2 • 892 Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2025
⏱️ 164 minutes
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Summary
What does it take to build tech the world actually trusts? Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales joins the crew to dig into the real crisis behind AI, social networks, and the web: trust, and how to build it when the stakes are global.
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Hosts: Leo Laporte, Jeff Jarvis, and Paris Martineau
Guest: Jimmy Wales
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| 0:00.0 | It's time for Intelligent Machines. Jeff and Paris are here, and so is our very special guest. |
| 0:05.1 | Joining us in just a moment, Jimmy Wales, the creator of Wikipedia. His new book, The Seven Rules of Trust, |
| 0:11.5 | talks about what it takes to create a community that can create something as incredible as Wikipedia. |
| 0:19.6 | He called it a Temple of the mind. It's coming up next on |
| 0:22.5 | intelligent machines. Podcasts you love from people you trust. This is Twit. |
| 0:34.7 | This is Intelligent Machines with Paris Martinoau and Jeff Jarvis, episode 846, |
| 0:41.1 | recorded Wednesday, November 19th, 2025. |
| 0:45.1 | Chive Lord. |
| 0:46.8 | It's time for intelligent machines, the show we cover the latest in artificial intelligence, |
| 0:51.6 | robotics, and all the smart doodads and gougas surrounding us all these |
| 0:57.6 | days. Pairosmartineau is here. Uh, or should I call you Kathira Lonswalap? You should if you are one of the, |
| 1:07.0 | who knows how many people have listened to our Dungeons and Dragons. |
| 1:47.3 | On Monday, we had so much fun. And you did the makeup. You had the ears. I did. You had the diadem. You had the whole thing. I didn't have the ears, but I contemplated getting the ears. And I think that counts for at least 30% of elf years. All right. You didn't have the ears? I must have just. I didn't know. so good at good at acting. You thought she had them. I was so good at acting. It felt like they were there. She was. And that is Jeff Jarvis, professor of journalistic innovation. Emeritus at the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism at the City of University of New York. Newark. Also, Montclair State University in Sunni-Stony Brookok where he's not emeritus author of the guttenberg parenthesis magazine and many other fine tomes not type coming soon available for |
| 1:54.6 | pre-order now always be so wait can't wait uh and our special guest we are so excited about our guest this week. |
| 2:04.1 | Jimmy Wales is a name everybody knows, the founder of Wikipedia. He is a legend. He is |
| 2:10.9 | perhaps one of, you know, a handful of people who have transformed civilization. Seriously, You think I'm joking. But Wikipedia, you tell a story. |
| 2:22.9 | So Jimmy has a new book, The Seven Rules of Trust. Welcome Jimmy to Intelligent Machines. |
| 2:27.4 | Thank you. |
| 2:27.9 | You tell a story early on in the book about your daughter, Kira, when she was born, had a medical |
| 2:33.8 | condition. |
| 2:34.5 | And you were, this is 2006, or even earlier, |
| 2:39.7 | before, pre-Wikipedia. |
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