Hello, everybody and welcome to Three Point Perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it, how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art.

I'm Jake Parker. I'm Lee White. And I'm Will Terry. All three of us are professional illustrators. And we've all been working for about the last 25 years we've worked with just about

every major publisher and publication in the business together we've published about 100 books

and we've all taught illustration at universities each week we're going to come at you guys with a

different topic sometimes we're going to agree sometimes we're going to argue but every time

you are going to leave amazed and

be dazzled. All right. We knocked that one out. This is so good. We should just record that.

I mean, like it is recorded, just like clip it and then just use it every time. No, I like how

there's subtle differences between each one. But if you're listening to this and you're a long-time listener,

meaning you've been around for the last year and a half,

you might be excited to know that this is our 40th episode.

You've listened to 40 of these.

40 episodes.

Of these hot mess podcast episodes.

That's 40 hours.

That's a full work week of just us yammering about random stuff.

That's true.

That's true.

But we really appreciate, we get emails, we get comments on Twitter.

We get people sharing it and just like every once while

there'll be like an Instagram story.

Someone says check out this podcast.

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