The The Welcome to the Internet History Podcast. I'm your host Brian McCullough.

Okay, here we go. Part three of our epic conversation with Stephen Paterno. Here's what happens when you've been

through the ringer, when you've been to the top of the roller coaster, and also down to

the bottom. Here's how you take stock of your life, how you reinvent yourself,

refind your entrepreneurial spirit.

I feel like there are so many lessons in these three episodes.

Lessons for entrepreneurs today,

lessons for, I don't know, people in the crypto space today.

My thanks to Stefan Paterno for an insanely great conversation, part three right now.

It's sort of like what happened with

cryptocurrencies recently, right?

It just, there's a complete disconnect with what the utility they

truly bring to the world right now versus the perceived

value they're going to bring to the world, right?

Everyone piled into crypto irrationally.

It doesn't mean crypto is not going to work.

It just means crypto hasn't gotten there yet and everyone

piled in anyway because of the fear of missing out it's so because I got to ask

this because I've asked the list of so many people have never gotten a satisfactory answer, but you've been so good at giving so many facets of this.

Was there a moment when you yourself were like the music stopped.

Yeah I could see the writing was on the wall because we couldn't keep up right the more we acquired the more we grew and the more we barely managed to eke past our revenue numbers the more the

stock dropped and I knew this was untenable. We could only buy so many companies

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