Hello, welcome to the Igen UK podcast. I'm here with Dale Driver. Hello Simon. How are you doing? I'm all right, mate. How are you? I'm all right, you know, excuse you can be. I'm also here with an old friend.

Hi yeah it's me Gav

I had a text from Cardi this morning and it was like Gav ratings are rock bottom since you were.

We need we need the big boy back. Rory's busy so yeah.

Cruits has already done it.

Crups is he's for the mums he's like the mother's favorite but we need we've lost a big

grout audience so we need that back.

We need our age back.

Yeah, before we get to that, of course there's a lot of bad stuff happening in the world and we're still doing our

podcast we're still gonna have an hour of us being silly but just want to say first

you know look after yourself take this time to educate yourself, donate if you can because

black lives do matter and if you disagree with that then just turn off this

podcast please. So yeah that's what I have to say I hope you

two agree because if you don't then imagine what you want it frankly. It is it is

it's been a tough week I guess for quite a lot of people like we put out a thing on our

KG thing on our Patreon which you know not I've been saying there's so much in the last year like hopefully it goes without saying but actually it's not enough to go without saying anymore

You've actually got to start fucking saying stuff and with their reaction that we've had after we put our post out from a lot of our black community that were just like, yeah,

obviously they didn't know that this is how we felt because you would like to think that

lots of people aren't fucking racist, but these days, unfortunately, you actually got to say it and do actions about it's not enough to just say it as well.

So like it's been a really tough week but also really sort of

interesting week in the sense of like it's opened up quite a lot of people's eyes and hopefully

things are not going to be the same now. Definitely. You can hope. We can hope.

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