Hello and the giggling Simon Cardi.

Hello and welcome to the Igen UK podcast.

My name's Joe Screbles. I'm joined by Dale Driver.

Hello.

And the giggling Simon Cardi.

I'm straight-faced.

He just made a little creepy face before we started

and he thought he was so funny.

You got very tired eyes today.

I've had a very long week.'s only Thursday we're on this on a

Thursday I've broken the illusion once again but yeah I've had a long

I feel like you've broken the illusion well some people might think we were

recorded on a Friday I'd want to break

Oh I see I thought that was your term for like being too tired no no

broken the illusion the illusion of life I'm now in a dream state somewhere between this earth and another.

I feel like you were less tired before we started and now you know what I said you were tired you've turned it up.

I'm tired and I can also feel a little bit of illness coming on. I've got a runny nose, bit of a headache.

Earlier he turned round to talk to me and he spoke entirely in the voice of a North American

podcast of telling a sad story where they do that croaky voice.

Vocal for me.

That he's on serial listening.

I'm feeling very important for that.

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