Hello and welcome to the Igen UK podcast my name's's Joe Scrabbles. I'm joined by Dale Driver.

Hello Simon Cardi and no one else. Before we start anything else I have been told

to inform you, listener, that we are running 10k for charity special effect who are good boys. Yep and good girls

We've only met the boys you're running you'll have fun. What are you doing Simon?

Well, Cup Day, isn't it? Final.

Are you going to come and join us and watch it the final afterwards?

If England are in it, no, because that's a family thing.

That's fair.

If anyone else, probably.

I love the idea that you've got a family tradition for a thing that hasn't happened since the

1866.

I'd have to watch the phone with my dad. I'm going to be honest, on the slim

slim chance that ingo get through the file, I might not bother showing up that day.

Well, that's a great reason to sponsor us.

We would love your donations.

They go to an amazing cause.

You should look up special effects they do incredible things and

sometimes if you go to shows like eGX they have special effects stands

is so cool to use their things if If you ever done eye tracking games?

They're amazing.

Like I tried some at the science museum recently,

like a shooter that you controlled entirely with your eyes.

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