Let's start with you here as chair of the Global Institute for Women's Leadership at King's College, London.

And what does it you tell young women here?

Well, I tell young women, whether they're here at King's College or anywhere else,

that particularly if they've got a passion for politics, for leadership, for public policy,

that they should go for it.

You know, I think that there are a lot of young women

who look at the experience of women leaders, particularly women politicians,

and the question comes into their mind, is it all worth it?

I always answer that question saying, yes, it's definitely worth it, go for it.

But I don't insult anybody's intelligence by pretending that

there still won't be gendered moments or issues to think through. And what's the thing that

makes it worth it? If you really do have a drive to change your nation, change the world,

then in my view there is no more effective way to do that

than through politics or public service. It gives you more of an ability to put your values into

action than any other walk of life. Do you get many young women saying to you, I'm thinking of politics,

but I might be thinking of business, and I don't know which

to go for, or maybe business that isn't all the scrutiny, and I forget to run my own shop.

No, I actually don't usually get that feedback. I think young women do recognize that in the

business community, you're not quite as out there in the public square, but that they still

see a series of barriers against women in business. And so you're back in the same conversation

about, you know, what's what to go for, what's worth it, what are the gendered bits. But I would

give the same advice to someone who wanted to be the next CEO of a Fortune 500 company.

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