This is a Glassbox Media Podcast.

Here in the West, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin

is always seen as one of two things, KGB spy or judo master.

But to anyone who's ever lived in the Soviet Union,

Putin is something else entirely, a street kid.

There are people who only understand force.

He was 14 years old when he said this.

Listen and follow about a boy, the story of Vladimir Putin,

an Odyssey original podcast and partnership with Puck,

available now on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts.

We've got a very different kind of sponsor for this episode,

the Jordan Harbinger Show, which is a podcast you really should be listening to.

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Each episode is a conversation with a different fascinating guest.

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In one episode, Jordan talks to a hostage negotiator from the FBI

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