This one is for the parents.

I am recording this on the ninth birthday of my fifth child.

So this child, Pammy, she is child number five out of six.

And every time her birthday rolls around,

it is an occasion of reflection for me, where I remember that for many years I didn't think that I was

going to make it to this point.

And so this podcast episode is especially for those of you

parents who have a child who is challenging you in any way.

Let me tell you a little bit about when Pammy was a baby. So around it, from around the time she was four months old. It was like the

like the awakening of Leviathan like coming to life,

roaring to life.

And this lasted until... roaring to life.

And this lasted until people on Instagram have been asking me, how long did this craziness last?

I would say she grew out of it somewhere between ages four and five. It was at the point where when she was little, her godmother,

Halli Lord, author Halli Lord, which I know some of you follow.

Halley Lord started by giving me these rousing girl power talks.

Hey girl, you can do anything.

I know my God daughter's a handful, but hey mama you got this

About a year in

When Halle had spent enough time on the phone with me, hearing this child screaming in the

background and then Holly would call back later and she's still screaming and

she would call back again and she's still screaming and the baby is like hitting the phone out of my hand and

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