Welcome to the Free Birth Podcast, a supportive space for people who are learning,

exploring and celebrating their autonomous choices in childbirth.

Together, we'll unpack truths, share personal stories,

and claim our ability to birth freely and intuitively. Here's your host, Emily Sal day. Today on the show we have Sergan-Kar Kalsa from Arizona who after a home birth transfer with her first child, decided to free birth

her second child with just her husband.

After carrying past 42 weeks, her nervous midwife called 911 towards the end of her labor and Sergan experienced a dramatic

transfer resulting in unnecessary intervention and obstetrical abuse.

Thankfully, following her intuition with her second pregnancy, she tells the experience was totally different from my last birth.

So I've had to in that and just the way that it started because we weren't planning it. We thought we were being

really careful not to have not to get pregnant. I was about a year into my

marriage a little less.

And we were both, I mean, we were both older.

My husband's six years older than I am.

I was 28 at the time. So it wasn't like a bad time to have

children or you know it wasn't like we felt unprepared to do that but it was just a

surprise and and it actually it's still super

mysterious when the conception date was because when the conception time

should have been we were sleeping in separate beds

working at a festival so it's it was like just super mysterious and yeah when I got home from the festival I was used to being really tired after

working there because it's super long hours and a lot of interaction with people which is

difficult for me that much of it and so I'm used to getting back and just kind of

sleeping for a few days right but it the tiredness did not seem to go away. And, you know, I'm here

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