Every person has a story and some parts of those stories feel too hard to tell.

You are listening to, if you only knew, a mini series brought to you by the Happy Hour with Jamie Ivy Podcast.

On today's show, my friend Lisa Whittle joins me and opens up about her struggle with shopping.

Lisa came to a point in her life where she knew that she wanted to eliminate anything that was getting between her and God.

And she found that it was shopping.

My hope for you as you listen is that you will not just hear about a woman who gave up shopping for a bit,

but you will hear about a woman who was determined to rid her heart and soul of anything that was getting between her and God.

Even if it was something that to most of us sounds like, kind of not that big of a deal.

I'm so thankful for Lisa in sharing her story because I know that what she says is true.

We're all much more like than we think.

You guys, if you're interested in hearing more of my story, check out my book, If You Only New,

that releases on January 30, where I invite you into my story and show you that each of us has a story that matters.

And that together we can encourage each other, point each other to Jesus and all proclaim that indeed Jesus is better.

Here is my conversation with Lisa.

Okay, Lisa, what is your If You Only New thing in your life?

Okay, so it's shopping.

It's actually I struggled in the area of shopping too much.

And so, kind of, I mean, I know that's kind of broad sounding, but what I mean by that is, you know, I just found myself,

just kind of, that was kind of my go to, right?

So anytime I was feeling stressed, anytime I was feeling sort of less than or like something wasn't working out or just like I,

even like I wanted to pick me up or, you know, usually it was to deal with some type of emotion.

I would go to this weird shopping deflection and yeah, so I kind of reached this place in my life where I realized

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